From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Tue Mar 4 11:45:01 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel Bruenn) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:45:01 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? Message-ID: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> Hello, i have a little cute notebook, someone experienced problems with one of the following things with lunar? (do i need additional drivers, is the iso cd kernel supporting my devices, do i need to load special drivers within the installer, if yes which one, etc) - Do i have to look at something? I never used Linux on a notebook... AMD Turion 64 x2 Mobile TL-60 (2.0 Ghz, 2x 512kb l2 cache) Geforce 8600M GS 512 MB (up to 1280 MB Turbo Cache) 2 GB DDR2 15.4"WXGA Acer Crystalbrite LCD (8ms/220-nit) 250 GB HDD (WD2500BEVS-22UST0 ATA Device) DVD-Super Multi DL (HL-DL-ST DVDRAM GSA-T20N ATA Device) 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) Realteak High definition Audio and some special things: Acer Crystal Eye webcam Ricoh Memory stick controller ricoh sd/mmc host controller Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller Alps pointing-device (this touchpad) HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP It's an Acer Aspire 5520G From sofar at foo-projects.org Tue Mar 4 19:22:49 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:22:49 -0800 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> Message-ID: <47CD9379.40501@foo-projects.org> Jean-Michel Bruenn wrote: > Hello, > > i have a little cute notebook, someone experienced problems with one of > the following things with lunar? (do i need additional drivers, is the > iso cd kernel supporting my devices, do i need to load special drivers > within the installer, if yes which one, etc) - Do i have to look at > something? I never used Linux on a notebook... most my laptops work great, but of course they have all-intel hardware :))) have you looked online? none of this info is lunar-specific.... Auke From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Tue Mar 4 20:12:43 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel Bruenn) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:12:43 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47CD9379.40501@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <47CD9379.40501@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <47CD9F2B.3000305@ip-minds.de> > most my laptops work great, but of course they have all-intel hardware :))) > > have you looked online? none of this info is lunar-specific.... > > Auke > Hey. Yep, i looked online. There are tons of ubuntu documentations, anyway, thought someone here on the maillinglist had experience with an acer notebook and lunar. I'm asking especially on the lunar list because iirc there are some acer programs/binaries/whatever for linux, like acer_acpi. Cheers Jean From zbiggy at o2.pl Tue Mar 4 20:34:53 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:34:53 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> Message-ID: <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> Tuesday 04 of March 2008 11:45:01 Jean-Michel Bruenn wrote: > Hello, > > i have a little cute notebook, someone experienced problems with one of > the following things with lunar? (do i need additional drivers, is the > iso cd kernel supporting my devices, do i need to load special drivers > within the installer, if yes which one, etc) - Do i have to look at > something? I never used Linux on a notebook... It looks @sofar advertised Intel so I have to backup the opposite side :) > AMD Turion 64 x2 Mobile TL-60 (2.0 Ghz, 2x 512kb l2 cache) AMD CPUs work perfectly with Lunar. On my Athlon64 3000+ thanks to C'n'Q during heavy tasks my CPU jumps from 1GHz to 1.80GHz. Thanks to ondemand govenor this is full automatic and temp. is 35*C. I also use k8-temp to read temp from CPU thermal diode. Also having 3dnow and sse3 together is cool: in MPlayer: CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 glxinfo: OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! my favourite 'hardware' CFLAGS: -march=athlon64 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse,387 (-march=athlon64 auto enables mmx, sse1/2, 3dnow so you only need to add -msse3 which appeared since Venice core few years ago) k8-temp is kernel module, govenors also are configurable in kernel - I choose ondemand as default one. You can use cpufrequtils lunar module to control govenors by hand. I can send you my kernel config for AMD to take everything the factory gives. My last Intel was Pentium75MHz. Then I used AMD Duron/AthlonXP/Athlon64. All work great. The cool feature of AMD since AthlonXP/64 you can have both 3dnow/sse together and C'n'Q which makes CPU cold (my machine have 1 fan). > Geforce 8600M GS 512 MB (up to 1280 MB Turbo Cache) GeForce 8600M GS supported in Lunar. Use the NVIDIA or NVIDIA-beta module. (NVIDIA is at 169.12 version with proprietary installer, NVIDIA-beta is at 171.05 with Lunar installer written by me. They do not differ very much: 169.12 is for home use, 171.05 is dedicated for Tesla superb render farms/GPU scientific calculations - there is additional tool for GPU control). I use 169.12 which was released later. activate vesafb console in kernel. Then add to kernel boot parameters: vga=773 video=vesafb:mtrr:4,ywrap (vga=773 is 1024x768x256 resolution which is perfect for me; you can pick up other vesa mode). Do _not_ use nvidiafb in kernel because you will not boot to X (open nvidiafb vs proprietary nvidia X driver conflict). > 2 GB DDR2 Supported. > 15.4"WXGA Acer Crystalbrite LCD (8ms/220-nit) Supported via NVIDIA. > 250 GB HDD (WD2500BEVS-22UST0 ATA Device) > DVD-Super Multi DL (HL-DL-ST DVDRAM GSA-T20N ATA Device) Chipset NVIDIA nForce 630M you have supports AHCI sata driver. nForce630 use AHCI sata driver so using Nvidia sata driver which is for older chipsets will not work. > 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) Do not know. > Realteak High definition Audio HDA is integrated in nForce 630. Use alsa hda driver. options snd-hda-intel model=acer > and some special things: > Acer Crystal Eye webcam Do not know. Depends on v4l driver and cam chipset. > Ricoh Memory stick controller > ricoh sd/mmc host controller > Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller > Alps pointing-device (this touchpad) > HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP Do not know. Depends on controller chipset. The only Lunar problems I had was SATA because of old ISO. First it was SI3112 chipset when I said hello to Lunar for first time few years ago and later Intel ESB2 chipset. Ask @tchan on IRC - he is very kind and helpful with injecting new kernel source to iso image. He helped me very much when I struggled with Intel ESB2 chipset a year ago. 99% of Lunar troubles can be solved by injecting current kernel to ISO image (or by installing to IDE and moving content to SATA after kernel update). zbiggy From sofar at foo-projects.org Tue Mar 4 23:03:30 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:03:30 -0800 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47CDC732.3090401@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > Tuesday 04 of March 2008 11:45:01 Jean-Michel Bruenn wrote: >> i have a little cute notebook, someone experienced problems with one of >> the following things with lunar? (do i need additional drivers, is the >> iso cd kernel supporting my devices, do i need to load special drivers >> within the installer, if yes which one, etc) - Do i have to look at >> something? I never used Linux on a notebook... > > It looks @sofar advertised Intel so I have to backup the opposite side :) (1) DISCLAIMER: I work for intel (so I'm horribly partial) (2) intel has OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS for all components of modern laptops >> AMD Turion 64 x2 Mobile TL-60 (2.0 Ghz, 2x 512kb l2 cache) > > AMD CPUs work perfectly with Lunar. On my Athlon64 3000+ thanks to C'n'Q > during heavy tasks my CPU jumps from 1GHz to 1.80GHz. Thanks to ondemand > govenor this is full automatic and temp. is 35*C. I also use k8-temp to read > temp from CPU thermal diode. Also having 3dnow and sse3 together is cool: > in MPlayer: > CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 > glxinfo: > OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! closed source driver, may give issues if you even change the kernel version. Intel has open source 3d rendering drivers for their all their gfx chipsets - merged in xorg/kernel where needed. > GeForce 8600M GS supported in Lunar. Use the NVIDIA or NVIDIA-beta module. lunar does not support ANYTHING. please be careful what you say! lunar only *provides* you packages. >> 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) > > Do not know. intel wireless now has a completely open source driver which is available in 2.6.24. cheers From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Wed Mar 5 10:28:32 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel Bruenn) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:28:32 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47CE67C0.9080307@ip-minds.de> @ auke: ;-) @ zbiggy: ty ;-) From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Wed Mar 5 10:38:47 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel Bruenn) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:38:47 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47CE67C0.9080307@ip-minds.de> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47CE67C0.9080307@ip-minds.de> Message-ID: <47CE6A27.9060406@ip-minds.de> Hey, btw. i tried lunar yesterday on my notebook, there are some issues (they aren't lunar related). Installing 1.6.1 works fine. The NIC is working fine with the 2.6.20 kernel if you have forcedeth as module, if it's statically compiled into the kernel it won't work. Updating to the actual kernel (2.6.24.3), results in a not working NIC (seems like forcedeth got some changes after 2.6.20) i can send the dmesg log later but iirc it wasn't helpful. Or perhaps i need to specify some parameters getting the nic with 2.6.24 working. anyway, using 2.6.20 for now. The wireless lan adapter isn't in kernel. Got it running with ndiswrapper, after searching for another .inf... anyway - the lunar installer is working perfectly ;-) Cheers Jean From zbiggy at o2.pl Wed Mar 5 16:50:25 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:50:25 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47CDC732.3090401@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47CDC732.3090401@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <200803051650.25843.zbiggy@o2.pl> Tuesday 04 of March 2008 23:03:30 Kok, Auke wrote: > Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > > It looks @sofar advertised Intel so I have to backup the opposite side :) > > (1) DISCLAIMER: I work for intel (so I'm horribly partial) Cool. Do you have underwear in blue hearts pattern? :-D > (2) intel has OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS for all components of modern laptops I have no Intel parts but my AMD desktop is also full open source. The only exception is nvidia binary for GPU. But I could use open nv driver instead. > closed source driver, may give issues if you even change the kernel > version. Intel has open source 3d rendering drivers for their all their gfx > chipsets - merged in xorg/kernel where needed. This is FUD. I was one of the first (2nd one) persons on nvnews.net who was brave enough to patch binary nforce blob and publish the patch to make it working with up to date kernels for all Linux people (to show this is possible). Nvidia said that the company is neutral on this legal matter so now the blobs are patched by other too. Binary/semi-binary driver/app can be patchable like open source one. Only more skills, time are needed to not only do patch but also overcome license obstacles. Nothing will stop the community from fixing soft on Linux. Bwahahaha (evil laugh out loud here please) :-D > > GeForce 8600M GS supported in Lunar. Use the NVIDIA or NVIDIA-beta > > module. > > lunar does not support ANYTHING. please be careful what you say! > > lunar only *provides* you packages. ... which provide support for hardware. I usually maintain nvidia modules so why not telling people that their hardware will work? > >> 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) > > > > Do not know. > > intel wireless now has a completely open source driver which is available > in 2.6.24. Wunderbar. If I find Intel users I will tell'em. One point plus for you - atheros works only via ndis wrapper. :-( > > cheers > > No offence. I appreciate Intel involvement and leadership in open sourcing driver but I do not run over users of other hardware saying that I use other brands. That is why I help radeon users who would like to use fglrx however I prefer geforce blob for its feature completeness. cheers, zbiggy From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Wed Mar 5 19:30:34 2008 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:30:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: notebook with lunar? Message-ID: <18907.82.93.24.95.1204741834.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> >> >> 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) >> > >> > Do not know. >> >> intel wireless now has a completely open source driver which is >> available >> in 2.6.24. > > Wunderbar. If I find Intel users I will tell'em. One point plus for you - > atheros works only via ndis wrapper. :-( I have Lunar 1.6.2 beta1 installed on an old Sony Viao PCG-FX401 with an SMC PCMCIA wireless card. lspci reports it as 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC and it's running using the madwifi module, not ndiswrapper. I admit that already use madwifi on my ASUS Pundit-R desktop with SMC PCI card, so I copied the madwifi source over via a USB stick as soon as I'd installed. Therefore I don't know whether it would have worked right off the ISO without problems. madwifi is a bit sensitive to (semi)major updates to the kernel, but then you can always switch over to the madwifi-svn module and live on the edge for a while until the next stable release catches up. However, you do need to check the exact Atheros card against the madwifi list because not all variations are currently supported. Cheers Duncan / engelsman From sofar at foo-projects.org Wed Mar 5 20:20:02 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:20:02 -0800 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803051650.25843.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47CDC732.3090401@foo-projects.org> <200803051650.25843.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47CEF262.9070808@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > Tuesday 04 of March 2008 23:03:30 Kok, Auke wrote: >> closed source driver, may give issues if you even change the kernel >> version. Intel has open source 3d rendering drivers for their all their gfx >> chipsets - merged in xorg/kernel where needed. > > This is FUD. I was one of the first (2nd one) persons on nvnews.net who was > brave enough to patch binary nforce blob and publish the patch to make it > working with up to date kernels for all Linux people (to show this is > possible). Nvidia said that the company is neutral on this legal matter so > now the blobs are patched by other too. well gee, of course they say that They will never admit that they were wrong for legal reasons. Right now they have no legal fears over getting sued over this because that would be too costly for anyone and Linux developers do not want to alienate companies too much. We like to slap them in the face around much with large (insert fresh water fish), which is working a lot better than sueing them. and cheaper. >>> GeForce 8600M GS supported in Lunar. Use the NVIDIA or NVIDIA-beta >>> module. >> lunar does not support ANYTHING. please be careful what you say! >> >> lunar only *provides* you packages. > > ... which provide support for hardware. I usually maintain nvidia modules so > why not telling people that their hardware will work? that's not the same as saying "GeForce 8600M GS supported in Lunar". It's all in the wording. Consider these two phrases: (a) "guns kill people" or (b) "people kill people with guns" depending on your point of view (a) may be correct, but (b) is a *fact*. let's stay with facts. I don't ever remember a gun picking up a bullet and pointing itself without a human... You're perfectly welcome to say "the nvidia 8800 will work under lunar-linux". >>>> 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) >>> Do not know. >> intel wireless now has a completely open source driver which is available >> in 2.6.24. > > Wunderbar. If I find Intel users I will tell'em. One point plus for you - > atheros works only via ndis wrapper. :-( you might be in luck as they're currently working hard to get this (completely open source) driver up and running and merged in to the kernel. unfortunately the vendor of that hardware is not providing any documentation to the developers. >> cheers >> >> > > No offence. I appreciate Intel involvement and leadership in open sourcing > driver but I do not run over users of other hardware saying that I use other > brands. That is why I help radeon users who would like to use fglrx however I > prefer geforce blob for its feature completeness. true, fglrx as a driver is much worse then the nvidia blob in many ways (needs constant patching and does _not_ behave at all). boy, I'd like to see the day that everything is just open source :) Auke From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Mar 7 12:35:27 2008 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer@lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:35:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: weekly news - 20080307 Message-ID: <20080307113527.CF4DDF29F3@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (4) Phun-beta_3_12: A fun 2D physics sandbox cupsddk-1.2.3: a CUPS driver development kit libsmbios-2.0.1: library for easy SMBIOS access qca2-ossl-2.0.0-beta3: OpenSSL plugin for QCA2 New versions: (62) ImageMagick : 6.3.7-10 -> 6.3.8-11 PyQt : 3.17.3 -> 3.17.4 acl : 2.2.45 -> 2.2.47 airconfig-svn : svn-08 -> svn-09 attr : 2.4.39 -> 2.4.41 chkrootkit : 0.47 -> 0.48 dbus : 1.0.2 -> 1.1.20 deluge : 0.5.8.4 -> 0.5.8.5 discover-data : 2.2008.02.01 -> 2.2008.03.01 dovecot : 1.0.10 -> 1.0.12 e2fsprogs : 1.40.6 -> 1.40.7 fasm : 1.67.23 -> 1.67.26 ghal-svn : svn-08 -> svn-09 ghostscript : 8.61 -> 8.62 gimp : 2.4.4 -> 2.4.5 gitosis-git : git-08 -> git-09 gnucash : 2.2.2 -> 2.2.4 hal-info : 20071212 -> 20080215 kde4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdeaccessibility4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdeadmin4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdeartwork4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdebase4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdebase4-runtime : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdebase4-workspace : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdebindings4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdeedu4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdegames4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdegraphics4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdelibs4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdemultimedia4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdenetwork4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdepimlibs4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdesdk4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdetoys4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdeutils4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 kdewebdev4 : 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 libburn : 0.4.0 -> 0.4.2 libebml : 0.7.7 -> 0.7.8 libisofs : 0.2.8 -> 0.6.2.1 linux-2.6-mm : 2.6.25-rc2-mm1 -> 2.6.25-rc3-mm1 lunar : 20080205 -> 20080303 mkvtoolnix : 2.1.0 -> 2.2.0 mpg123 : 1.2.1 -> 1.3.0 net-snmp : 5.3.1 -> 5.4.1 opera-beta : 9.50beta1772 -> 9.50beta1834 opera-static-beta : 9.50beta1772 -> 9.50beta1834 phpMyAdmin : 2.11.4 -> 2.11.5 pidgin : 2.3.1 -> 2.4.0 rkhunter : 1.3.0 -> 1.3.2 rsync : 2.6.9 -> 3.0.0 ruby : 1.8.6-p111 -> 1.8.6-p114 scummvm : 0.11.0 -> 0.11.1 snort : 2.8.0.1 -> 2.8.0.2 soprano : 2.0.0 -> 2.0.3 syslinux : 3.61 -> 3.62 theedge : 20080205 -> 20080303 vlc : 0.8.6d -> 0.8.6e vobcopy : 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1 xfsdump : 2.2.46 -> 2.2.48 xfsprogs : 2.9.6 -> 2.9.7 xscreensaver : 5.04 -> 5.05 ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Fri Mar 7 13:58:40 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel Bruenn) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:58:40 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> > > k8-temp is kernel module, govenors also are configurable in kernel - I choose > ondemand as default one. You can use cpufrequtils lunar module to control > govenors by hand. > > I can send you my kernel config for AMD to take everything the factory gives. > > My last Intel was Pentium75MHz. Then I used AMD Duron/AthlonXP/Athlon64. All > work great. The cool feature of AMD since AthlonXP/64 you can have both > 3dnow/sse together and C'n'Q which makes CPU cold (my machine have 1 fan). > > Yep, please mail me your kernel config. I haven't tried arround with cpufrequtils right now, but k8-temp is in kernel and seems it's working, dmesg is showing some things ;-) >> Geforce 8600M GS 512 MB (up to 1280 MB Turbo Cache) >> > > GeForce 8600M GS supported in Lunar. Use the NVIDIA or NVIDIA-beta module. > (NVIDIA is at 169.12 version with proprietary installer, NVIDIA-beta is at > 171.05 with Lunar installer written by me. They do not differ very much: > 169.12 is for home use, 171.05 is dedicated for Tesla superb render farms/GPU > scientific calculations - there is additional tool for GPU control). I use > 169.12 which was released later. > i installed NVIDIA-beta. It's working. > activate vesafb console in kernel. Then add to kernel boot parameters: > vga=773 video=vesafb:mtrr:4,ywrap > (vga=773 is 1024x768x256 resolution which is perfect for me; you can pick up > other vesa mode). Do _not_ use nvidiafb in kernel because you will not boot > to X (open nvidiafb vs proprietary nvidia X driver conflict). > ah, okay, ty. >> 15.4"WXGA Acer Crystalbrite LCD (8ms/220-nit) >> > > Supported via NVIDIA. > yep, working. > >> 250 GB HDD (WD2500BEVS-22UST0 ATA Device) >> DVD-Super Multi DL (HL-DL-ST DVDRAM GSA-T20N ATA Device) >> > > Chipset NVIDIA nForce 630M you have supports AHCI sata driver. > nForce630 use AHCI sata driver so using Nvidia sata driver which is for older > chipsets will not work. > thats working with ahci. yep. > >> 802.11b/g WLAN (Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter) >> > > Do not know. > i needed to look for a winxp inf file for this wireless network adapter and i'm using it with ndiswrapper. The Vista driver isn't working with ndiswrapper. Anyway - it's working. > >> Realteak High definition Audio >> > > HDA is integrated in nForce 630. Use alsa hda driver. > options snd-hda-intel model=acer > i haven't tried model=acer right now - and i don't have much experience with modules where do i set this options? (normally i have everything i need statically in my kernel heh) > >> and some special things: >> Acer Crystal Eye webcam >> > > Do not know. Depends on v4l driver and cam chipset. > > working really good in skype. >> Ricoh Memory stick controller >> ricoh sd/mmc host controller >> Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller >> Alps pointing-device (this touchpad) >> HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP >> > > Do not know. Depends on controller chipset. > > The only Lunar problems I had was SATA because of old ISO. > First it was SI3112 chipset when I said hello to Lunar for first time few > years ago and later Intel ESB2 chipset. > > Ask @tchan on IRC - he is very kind and helpful with injecting new kernel > source to iso image. He helped me very much when I struggled with Intel ESB2 > chipset a year ago. 99% of Lunar troubles can be solved by injecting current > kernel to ISO image (or by installing to IDE and moving content to SATA after > kernel update). > the ricoh things are working, the touchpad is working. the hdaudio thingy, dunno. > zbiggy > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar > > thanks ;) Cheers Jean From zbiggy at o2.pl Fri Mar 7 15:49:37 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:49:37 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> Message-ID: <200803071549.38170.zbiggy@o2.pl> Friday 07 of March 2008 13:58:40 Jean-Michel Bruenn wrote: > > k8-temp is kernel module, govenors also are configurable in kernel - I > > choose ondemand as default one. You can use cpufrequtils lunar module to > > control govenors by hand. > > > > I can send you my kernel config for AMD to take everything the factory > > gives. > > > > My last Intel was Pentium75MHz. Then I used AMD Duron/AthlonXP/Athlon64. > > All work great. The cool feature of AMD since AthlonXP/64 you can have > > both 3dnow/sse together and C'n'Q which makes CPU cold (my machine have 1 > > fan). > > Yep, please mail me your kernel config. I haven't tried arround with > cpufrequtils right now, but k8-temp is in kernel and seems it's working, > dmesg is showing some things ;-) I will mail config when come back home. cpufrequtils are easy: $ cpufreq-info reads present state: analyzing CPU 0: driver: powernow-k8 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.80 GHz available frequency steps: 1.80 GHz, 1000 MHz available cpufreq governors: ondemand, performance current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1.80 GHz. The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use within this range. current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz. # cpufreq-set -g performance (which always must be run as root) on my machine changes default ondemand govenor to performance. However since I started to use ondemand govenor I do not use performance govenor anymore (and will remove any governor except ondemad on next kernel update). The ondemand behaviour can be very good observed by lining big module. At idle CPU time check cpufreq-info to see it displays current CPU freq: 1000 MHz. Then lin something big and on second console during lin run cpufreq-info to see that CPU freq jumped to maximum (1800 MHz on my 3000+ CPU). After lining the CPU freq will go down to 1000 again waiting for another big job. k8temp module is accessible via lm_sensors-2.6 app or ksensors not kernel logs or something else. You only should take care of loading k8temp module before running sensor reader app (I have k8temp compiled in kernel so do not care about modules). $ sensors k8temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter Core0 Temp: +32?C (this is for my Athlon64 3000+ Venice) > > activate vesafb console in kernel. Then add to kernel boot parameters: > > vga=773 video=vesafb:mtrr:4,ywrap > > (vga=773 is 1024x768x256 resolution which is perfect for me; you can pick > > up other vesa mode). Do _not_ use nvidiafb in kernel because you will not > > boot to X (open nvidiafb vs proprietary nvidia X driver conflict). > > ah, okay, ty. Here is doc how to calculate mode number: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt On my Geforce 6150 the 256 color (8bpp) looks to be faster than 64k or 16M colors modes. To my surprise 4bpp modes do not work. If you do not watch movies on vesa console without having/using X there is no need for using more than 8bpp modes. I got reports that since Geforce7 there are some card manufacturers who use stripped video bios where vesa was cut here and there resulting in black screen instead of vesafb console. Picking up card with not stripped video bios is pure luck. If your video bios is smaller than 63kb (like 58 or 61 kb size) it is stripped. Nobody except manufacturer know what was cut so on smaller video bioses the vesafb may work or may not. > > HDA is integrated in nForce 630. Use alsa hda driver. > > options snd-hda-intel model=acer > > i haven't tried model=acer right now - and i don't have much experience > with modules where do i set this options? (normally i have everything i > need statically in my kernel heh) /etc/modules.d/alsa But I do not know if this is place recommended by Lunar fathers. :-) Any Lunar daddy comment on this? :-D zbiggy From zbiggy at o2.pl Fri Mar 7 16:01:51 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:01:51 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803071549.38170.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> <200803071549.38170.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <200803071601.51469.zbiggy@o2.pl> Friday 07 of March 2008 15:49:37 Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > # cpufreq-set -g performance I forgot to tell that setting performance governor has no sense. This is dumb mod that sets CPU to max freq and nothing else. This is the same what you have after booting without any governor. I have not found any person who used something else than ondemand. Everyone just sets ondemand as default gov in kernel and even do not install cpufrequtils at all. zbiggy From sofar at foo-projects.org Fri Mar 7 19:45:09 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:45:09 -0800 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803071549.38170.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> <200803071549.38170.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47D18D35.5040400@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > # cpufreq-set -g performance > > (which always must be run as root) on my machine changes default ondemand > govenor to performance. However since I started to use ondemand govenor I do > not use performance govenor anymore (and will remove any governor except > ondemad on next kernel update). > The ondemand behaviour can be very good observed by lining big module. At idle > CPU time check cpufreq-info to see it displays current CPU freq: 1000 MHz. > Then lin something big and on second console during lin run cpufreq-info to > see that CPU freq jumped to maximum (1800 MHz on my 3000+ CPU). > After lining the CPU freq will go down to 1000 again waiting for another big > job. ondemand is the best governor ATM and adviseable for anyone using a laptop. I would even advice it to everyone running a *desktop* as well, as even there it will lower your electrical bill significantly while not affecting performance noticeably. From zbiggy at o2.pl Fri Mar 7 23:39:00 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:39:00 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47D18D35.5040400@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803071549.38170.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D18D35.5040400@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <200803072339.00838.zbiggy@o2.pl> Friday 07 of March 2008 19:45:09 Kok, Auke wrote: > ondemand is the best governor ATM and adviseable for anyone using a laptop. > I would even advice it to everyone running a *desktop* as well, as even > there it will lower your electrical bill significantly while not affecting > performance noticeably. Another plus of running ondemad by default is silence on desktop. The cpu fan turns slower thanks to lower temp. This is my favourite advantage. I do not see any visible ondemad cost on performance. zbiggy From dennisveatch at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 10 17:39:10 2008 From: dennisveatch at bellsouth.net (Dennis Veatch) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:39:10 -0400 Subject: kdeedu3 and kdeedu4 build failures after ocaml bump. Message-ID: <200803101239.10197.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> Hi everyone. This is just to let you know you will need to relin facile after the ocaml version bump. Otherwise, kdeedu3 and kdeedu4 will fail their builds. This is the first time I have seen this on a ocaml bump so for the time being I don't see the need to modify the ocaml BUILD to relin facile on a bump. Though I will keep an eye on it. Thank you and have an amazingly amazing day. -- You can tuna piano but you can't tune a fish. http://www.lunar-linux.org/ It's worth a spin. From zbiggy at o2.pl Tue Mar 11 05:16:24 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:16:24 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> Message-ID: <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> Friday 07 of March 2008 13:58:40 Jean-Michel Bruenn wrote: > Yep, please mail me your kernel config. [*] Tickless System (Dynamic Ticks) [*] High Resolution Timer Support [ ] Symmetric multi-processing support Subarchitecture Type (PC-compatible) ---> [*] Single-depth WCHAN output [ ] Paravirtualized guest support ---> Processor family (Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8) ---> [ ] Generic x86 support [ ] HPET Timer Support Preemption Model (Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)) ---> [*] Local APIC support on uniprocessors [*] IO-APIC support on uniprocessors [*] Machine Check Exception <*> Check for non-fatal errors on AMD Athlon/Duron / Intel Pentium 4 [ ] check for P4 thermal throttling interrupt. < > Toshiba Laptop support < > Dell laptop support [ ] Enable X86 board specific fixups for reboot < > /dev/cpu/microcode - Intel IA32 CPU microcode support < > /dev/cpu/*/msr - Model-specific register support <*> /dev/cpu/*/cpuid - CPU information support High Memory Support (off) ---> [*] PAE (Physical Address Extension) Support Memory model (Flat Memory) ---> -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) [ ] Math emulation [*] MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support [ ] Boot from EFI support [*] Enable seccomp to safely compute untrusted bytecode [*] Power Management support [ ] Legacy Power Management API (DEPRECATED) [ ] Power Management Debug Support [ ] Suspend to RAM and standby [ ] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') [*] ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support ---> CPU Frequency scaling ---> [*] CPU idle PM support [*] CPU Frequency scaling [ ] Enable CPUfreq debugging < > CPU frequency translation statistics Default CPUFreq governor (ondemand) ---> < > 'performance' governor < > 'powersave' governor < > 'userspace' governor for userspace frequency scaling -*- 'ondemand' cpufreq policy governor < > 'conservative' cpufreq governor *** CPUFreq processor drivers *** <*> ACPI Processor P-States driver < > AMD Mobile K6-2/K6-3 PowerNow! < > AMD Mobile Athlon/Duron PowerNow! <*> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow! [*] ACPI Support From sofar at foo-projects.org Tue Mar 11 17:04:24 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:04:24 -0700 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803042034.53764.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D13C00.1030207@ip-minds.de> <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > Friday 07 of March 2008 13:58:40 Jean-Michel Bruenn wrote: >> Yep, please mail me your kernel config. > > [*] Tickless System (Dynamic Ticks) > [*] High Resolution Timer Support > [ ] Symmetric multi-processing support > Subarchitecture Type (PC-compatible) ---> > [*] Single-depth WCHAN output > [ ] Paravirtualized guest support ---> > Processor family (Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8) ---> > [ ] Generic x86 support > [ ] HPET Timer Support turn this ON. *always* > Preemption Model (Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)) ---> > [*] Local APIC support on uniprocessors > [*] IO-APIC support on uniprocessors > [*] Machine Check Exception > <*> Check for non-fatal errors on AMD Athlon/Duron / Intel Pentium 4 > [ ] check for P4 thermal throttling interrupt. > < > Toshiba Laptop support > < > Dell laptop support > [ ] Enable X86 board specific fixups for reboot > < > /dev/cpu/microcode - Intel IA32 CPU microcode support > < > /dev/cpu/*/msr - Model-specific register support > <*> /dev/cpu/*/cpuid - CPU information support > High Memory Support (off) ---> > [*] PAE (Physical Address Extension) Support > Memory model (Flat Memory) ---> > -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) I doubt you need this and it just makes things slower. probably better to turn off. > [ ] Math emulation > [*] MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support > [ ] Boot from EFI support > [*] Enable seccomp to safely compute untrusted bytecode > [*] Power Management support > [ ] Legacy Power Management API (DEPRECATED) > [ ] Power Management Debug Support > [ ] Suspend to RAM and standby > [ ] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') you don't want to suspend/resume with your laptop? > [*] ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support ---> > CPU Frequency scaling ---> > [*] CPU idle PM support > [*] CPU Frequency scaling > [ ] Enable CPUfreq debugging > < > CPU frequency translation statistics > Default CPUFreq governor (ondemand) ---> > < > 'performance' governor > < > 'powersave' governor > < > 'userspace' governor for userspace frequency scaling > -*- 'ondemand' cpufreq policy governor > < > 'conservative' cpufreq governor > *** CPUFreq processor drivers *** > <*> ACPI Processor P-States driver > < > AMD Mobile K6-2/K6-3 PowerNow! > < > AMD Mobile Athlon/Duron PowerNow! > <*> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow! > [*] ACPI Support looks good otherwise. :) From zbiggy at o2.pl Tue Mar 11 21:58:42 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:58:42 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> Tuesday 11 of March 2008 17:04:24 Kok, Auke wrote: > Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > > [ ] HPET Timer Support > > turn this ON. *always* My Asus A8N-VM CSM is too old to support this. This is not hardware limitation but bios acpi problem. Asus refused to add hpet entry to acpi table and reserved this feature for later boards. What a pity Linux needs hpet entry in acpi table to use hpet - otherwise I could have it. > > -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) > I doubt you need this and it just makes things slower. probably better to > turn off. lspci -v tells me that many devices have 64bit+ caps (all are integrated in Nvidia C51 and MCP51 chipset). I do not remember that I turned it on because I usually keep away from experimental when I do not have to. Probably something other autoenabled it as requirement. > > [ ] Suspend to RAM and standby > > [ ] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') > > you don't want to suspend/resume with your laptop? I do not have any laptop. Just two ATX desktops. > looks good otherwise. :) Thanks for comments. When I replace Asus junk mobo with real hardware I will remember to enable hpet and upgrade CPU to dual/quad core too. :-) Only wait for apps using sse4/5. zbiggy From sofar at foo-projects.org Tue Mar 11 22:42:28 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:42:28 -0700 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > Tuesday 11 of March 2008 17:04:24 Kok, Auke wrote: >> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: >>> [ ] HPET Timer Support >> turn this ON. *always* > > My Asus A8N-VM CSM is too old to support this. This is not hardware limitation > but bios acpi problem. Asus refused to add hpet entry to acpi table and > reserved this feature for later boards. What a pity Linux needs hpet entry in > acpi table to use hpet - otherwise I could have it. there are patches that force-enable the HPET in this case, you might want to look at those as HPET will significantly improve battery life on laptops. >>> -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) >> I doubt you need this and it just makes things slower. probably better to >> turn off. > > lspci -v tells me that many devices have 64bit+ caps (all are integrated in > Nvidia C51 and MCP51 chipset). I do not remember that I turned it on because > I usually keep away from experimental when I do not have to. Probably > something other autoenabled it as requirement. all this option does is use more bytes to access the same memory. Since you are unlikely to have 4gb+ memory in your laptop, you don't need it and it just wastes CPU cycles. >>> [ ] Suspend to RAM and standby >>> [ ] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') >> you don't want to suspend/resume with your laptop? > > I do not have any laptop. Just two ATX desktops. still could be interesting :) >> looks good otherwise. :) > > Thanks for comments. When I replace Asus junk mobo with real hardware I will > remember to enable hpet and upgrade CPU to dual/quad core too. :-) > Only wait for apps using sse4/5. lol, asus usually makes OK motherboards. it's more important for libraries to use sse+ stuff, those play an extremely important role under linux. looks like that effort is being worked on too right now. Auke From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Wed Mar 12 15:51:34 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Br=FCnn?=) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:51:34 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <20080312155134.f8c12737.jean.bruenn@ip-minds.de> possibly stupid question, i looked at some documentation when striker said "RTFM" but i found nothing, could someone point me to a man page or maybe a kernel documentation how i would try a suspend to ram suspend? or could someone send me some informations how to do so? i've enabled it in kernel, what do i have to do now? From sofar at foo-projects.org Wed Mar 12 17:40:46 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:40:46 -0700 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <20080312155134.f8c12737.jean.bruenn@ip-minds.de> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> <20080312155134.f8c12737.jean.bruenn@ip-minds.de> Message-ID: <47D8078E.80708@foo-projects.org> Jean-Michel Br?nn wrote: > possibly stupid question, > > i looked at some documentation when striker said "RTFM" but i found nothing, could someone point me to a man page or maybe a kernel documentation how i would try a suspend to ram suspend? > > or could someone send me some informations how to do so? i've enabled it in kernel, what do i have to do now? either your distro/desktop has to provide an interface to this: - closing your laptop display lid to cause a suspend - a button somewhere in your desktop or you can do it manually by doing either - echo -n disk > /sys/power/state (for suspend to disk / aka hibernate) - echo -n mem > /sys/power/state (for suspend to memory) also, you'll need to add the `resume=/dev/sdaN` option to your boot loader so that linux can resume from that partition if you chose suspend to disk. all the docs are under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/ Auke From jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de Wed Mar 12 17:49:56 2008 From: jean.bruenn at ip-minds.de (Jean-Michel =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Br=FCnn?=) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:49:56 +0100 Subject: notebook with lunar? In-Reply-To: <47D8078E.80708@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803110516.24543.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6AD88.9090305@foo-projects.org> <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> <20080312155134.f8c12737.jean.bruenn@ip-minds.de> <47D8078E.80708@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <20080312174956.25f5a2d0.jean.bruenn@ip-minds.de> hello, i run suspend to ram (memory) worked - ty. Cheers Jean On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:40:46 -0700 "Kok, Auke" wrote: > echo -n mem > /sys/power/state -- Jean-Michel Br?nn From zbiggy at o2.pl Thu Mar 13 05:33:32 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:33:32 +0100 Subject: kernel configuration, hpet (was notebook with lunar?) In-Reply-To: <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <200803130533.32653.zbiggy@o2.pl> Tuesday 11 of March 2008 22:42:28 Kok, Auke wrote: > Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > > Tuesday 11 of March 2008 17:04:24 Kok, Auke wrote: > >> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > >>> [ ] HPET Timer Support > >> > >> turn this ON. *always* > > > > My Asus A8N-VM CSM is too old to support this. This is not hardware > > limitation but bios acpi problem. Asus refused to add hpet entry to acpi > > table and reserved this feature for later boards. What a pity Linux needs > > hpet entry in acpi table to use hpet - otherwise I could have it. > > there are patches that force-enable the HPET in this case, you might want > to look at those as HPET will significantly improve battery life on > laptops. None of the patches I found support my chipset. :-( So I wrote new tiny one to enable hpet also for my chipset. :-) If you (or someone else here) uses hpet tell me if my output is correct and does not miss anything: $ dmesg | grep -i hpet Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda8 ro vga=773 video=vesafb:mtrr:4,ywrap vt.default_utf8=0 hpet=force Force enabled HPET at base address 0xfed00000 hpet clockevent registered Time: hpet clocksource has been installed. $ grep -i hpet /proc/timer_list Clock Event Device: hpet set_next_event: hpet_legacy_next_event set_mode: hpet_legacy_set_mode Any other check for hpet I do not know? If the results will be OK I will make patch public on nvnews.net for further public testing. I'm not sure if hpet will help me on my single core CPU: "The HPET provides a stable time base on SMP systems, unlike the TSC, but it is more expensive to access, as it is off-chip." source: CONFIG_HPET_TIMER help from menuconfig. So far do not see big difference. Will look how it behaves under load. > >>> -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) > >> > >> I doubt you need this and it just makes things slower. probably better > >> to turn off. > > > > lspci -v tells me that many devices have 64bit+ caps (all are integrated > > in Nvidia C51 and MCP51 chipset). I do not remember that I turned it on > > because I usually keep away from experimental when I do not have to. > > Probably something other autoenabled it as requirement. > > all this option does is use more bytes to access the same memory. Since you > are unlikely to have 4gb+ memory in your laptop, you don't need it and it > just wastes CPU cycles. I can not disable it. This is dependency for: [*] PAE (Physical Address Extension) Support As for memory I have 4x256MiB==1GiB (quadbank :-D ). Of course I'm joking. Quadbank is not supported/useful now. But some casual people say wow. > >> looks good otherwise. :) > > > > Thanks for comments. When I replace Asus junk mobo with real hardware I > > will remember to enable hpet and upgrade CPU to dual/quad core too. :-) > > Only wait for apps using sse4/5. > > lol, asus usually makes OK motherboards. I do not think so. Asus saved cost by not providing heat spreader on south bridge (other manufacturers have some iron on this very same south bridge). Southbridge is hot as hell. I got SATA errors few times. Another issue is bios. Dirty and buggy as 2 year old sandwich. It took Asus 6 months to clean up acpi tables from 1 bad character. Asus only have done this fix under heavy, massive pressure from Linux users. google: A8N-VM acpi bad character A never fixed bug is in VGA vbios. Some VGA video modes in pure DOS are broken. (the tech support from Asus told me to install widows driver to fix pure DOS video mode problem. When I asked how Windows driver will cure pure DOS video mode problem he answered Asus does not support DOS OS - and that was all the help from Asus). Also the mentioned hpet is not present in acpi table so Linux without patching will not see it. In Windows hpet will never be accessible. Asrock and Asus in later models (Vista certified) add HPET enable switch in bios setup. And those mobos use the same chipset I have and look identical (wow new feature hpet). Another not solved problem is with AsusUpdate app which freezes Windows when is started. AsusUpdate also reports no file on server error when bios is up to date. My mobo has 3 years so I doubt there will be any new updates. Asus is the worst mobo maker I ever saw. (I could say more but the list is long and contains some ugly things like hangs and freezeing in bioses less than 1007 version). No more Asus. Never. These bugs are not important for 99% of people but I use everything what factory implements (except overclocking I do not like). > it's more important for libraries to use sse+ stuff, those play an > extremely important role under linux. looks like that effort is being > worked on too right now. It is strange why Intel does not implement 3dnow. They have agreement with AMD on free exchanging CPU opcodes. 3dnow is still useful in older apps (especially top classic games). Some present apps/libs also make use of 3dnow. Thanks for info about hpet force patches. They were my inspiration to successfully sniff around my chipset and patch design. :-) zbiggy From sofar at foo-projects.org Thu Mar 13 18:38:51 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:38:51 -0700 Subject: kernel configuration, hpet (was notebook with lunar?) In-Reply-To: <200803130533.32653.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803112158.42608.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D6FCC4.9000002@foo-projects.org> <200803130533.32653.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47D966AB.7010306@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > Tuesday 11 of March 2008 22:42:28 Kok, Auke wrote: >> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: >>> Tuesday 11 of March 2008 17:04:24 Kok, Auke wrote: >>>> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: >>>>> [ ] HPET Timer Support >>>> turn this ON. *always* >>> My Asus A8N-VM CSM is too old to support this. This is not hardware >>> limitation but bios acpi problem. Asus refused to add hpet entry to acpi >>> table and reserved this feature for later boards. What a pity Linux needs >>> hpet entry in acpi table to use hpet - otherwise I could have it. >> there are patches that force-enable the HPET in this case, you might want >> to look at those as HPET will significantly improve battery life on >> laptops. > > None of the patches I found support my chipset. :-( > So I wrote new tiny one to enable hpet also for my chipset. :-) > If you (or someone else here) uses hpet tell me if my output is correct and > does not miss anything: > > $ dmesg | grep -i hpet > Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda8 ro vga=773 video=vesafb:mtrr:4,ywrap > vt.default_utf8=0 hpet=force > Force enabled HPET at base address 0xfed00000 > hpet clockevent registered > Time: hpet clocksource has been installed. > > $ grep -i hpet /proc/timer_list > Clock Event Device: hpet > set_next_event: hpet_legacy_next_event > set_mode: hpet_legacy_set_mode > > Any other check for hpet I do not know? > If the results will be OK I will make patch public on nvnews.net for further > public testing. > > I'm not sure if hpet will help me on my single core CPU: > "The HPET provides a stable time base on SMP systems, unlike the TSC, but it > is more expensive to access, as it is off-chip." source: CONFIG_HPET_TIMER > help from menuconfig. > > So far do not see big difference. Will look how it behaves under load. try running powertop and seeing if it still complains about HPET being missing. >>>>> -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) >>>> I doubt you need this and it just makes things slower. probably better >>>> to turn off. >>> lspci -v tells me that many devices have 64bit+ caps (all are integrated >>> in Nvidia C51 and MCP51 chipset). I do not remember that I turned it on >>> because I usually keep away from experimental when I do not have to. >>> Probably something other autoenabled it as requirement. >> all this option does is use more bytes to access the same memory. Since you >> are unlikely to have 4gb+ memory in your laptop, you don't need it and it >> just wastes CPU cycles. > > I can not disable it. This is dependency for: > [*] PAE (Physical Address Extension) Support > > As for memory I have 4x256MiB==1GiB (quadbank :-D ). Of course I'm joking. > Quadbank is not supported/useful now. But some casual people say wow. I don't think you need PAE anyway. you don't have 4gb of memory so that's not going to be used anyway either. >>>> looks good otherwise. :) >>> Thanks for comments. When I replace Asus junk mobo with real hardware I >>> will remember to enable hpet and upgrade CPU to dual/quad core too. :-) >>> Only wait for apps using sse4/5. >> lol, asus usually makes OK motherboards. > > I do not think so. Asus saved cost by not providing heat spreader on south > bridge (other manufacturers have some iron on this very same south bridge). > Southbridge is hot as hell. I got SATA errors few times. lol, ok I will reconsider ASUS mobo's now :) > Another issue is bios. Dirty and buggy as 2 year old sandwich. > It took Asus 6 months to clean up acpi tables from 1 bad character. Asus only > have done this fix under heavy, massive pressure from Linux users. > google: A8N-VM acpi bad character > A never fixed bug is in VGA vbios. Some VGA video modes in pure DOS are > broken. (the tech support from Asus told me to install widows driver to fix > pure DOS video mode problem. When I asked how Windows driver will cure pure > DOS video mode problem he answered Asus does not support DOS OS - and that > was all the help from Asus). > Also the mentioned hpet is not present in acpi table so Linux without patching > will not see it. In Windows hpet will never be accessible. Asrock and Asus in > later models (Vista certified) add HPET enable switch in bios setup. And > those mobos use the same chipset I have and look identical (wow new feature > hpet). windows doesn't use HPET at all afaik- the support is just missing in the OS. (I think) > Another not solved problem is with AsusUpdate app which freezes Windows when > is started. AsusUpdate also reports no file on server error when bios is up > to date. My mobo has 3 years so I doubt there will be any new updates. Asus > is the worst mobo maker I ever saw. (I could say more but the list is long > and contains some ugly things like hangs and freezeing in bioses less than > 1007 version). No more Asus. Never. > > These bugs are not important for 99% of people but I use everything what > factory implements (except overclocking I do not like). > >> it's more important for libraries to use sse+ stuff, those play an >> extremely important role under linux. looks like that effort is being >> worked on too right now. > > It is strange why Intel does not implement 3dnow. They have agreement with AMD > on free exchanging CPU opcodes. 3dnow is still useful in older apps > (especially top classic games). Some present apps/libs also make use of > 3dnow. not really strange at all. Intel was developing SSE2 when AMD came out with 3dnow and a lot of that complements functionality but isn't exactly the same. Everyone is better off if they're distinctly named differently and recognizeable. AMD also did not choose to implement some SSE2/3 functionality since these engines can be complex and might not actually be workable based on the CPU design. on top of that they take die space and that is expensive, so every chip manufacturer will decide for himself which is better for profit ($$!!) and let marketing choose how to sell this to their customers, that's just how that works. we're seeing the same thing now with SSE4 and AMD coming up with a subset of these instructions and vice versa - it's like cars: some car makers advertise "hybrid!" and others sell "All Wheel Drive!". Sure it would be nice if all cars had the same features, but they would all be equally dull ;) Auke From zbiggy at o2.pl Thu Mar 13 22:58:11 2008 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:58:11 +0100 Subject: kernel configuration, hpet (was notebook with lunar?) In-Reply-To: <47D966AB.7010306@foo-projects.org> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803130533.32653.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D966AB.7010306@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <200803132258.11706.zbiggy@o2.pl> Thursday 13 of March 2008 18:38:51 Kok, Auke wrote: > > I'm not sure if hpet will help me on my single core CPU: > > "The HPET provides a stable time base on SMP systems, unlike the TSC, but > > it is more expensive to access, as it is off-chip." source: > > CONFIG_HPET_TIMER help from menuconfig. > > > > So far do not see big difference. Will look how it behaves under load. > > try running powertop and seeing if it still complains about HPET being > missing. Cool tool. No complains about hpet. I will post the patch on nvnews to see what other say. Very interesting hints about power saving. However I meant processing power decrease. According to hpet kernel doc this is off-chip device so access cost is higher than to TSC. For desktops power saving is not so important. > >>>>> -*- 64 bit Memory and IO resources (EXPERIMENTAL) > > I can not disable it. This is dependency for: > > [*] PAE (Physical Address Extension) Support > > I don't think you need PAE anyway. you don't have 4gb of memory so that's > not going to be used anyway either. PAE is useful for NX protection. In Linux it may not be needed. XP SP2 auto enables it to protect against 'blaster' virii. After deactivating PAE I could turn off 64bit mem. Will see how it works. > > I do not think so. Asus saved cost by not providing heat spreader on > > south bridge (other manufacturers have some iron on this very same south > > bridge). Southbridge is hot as hell. I got SATA errors few times. > > lol, ok I will reconsider ASUS mobo's now :) This A8N-VM CSM was my learning that if everyone puts iron on chip and one manufacturer does not do this, it means accountants cut costs on this product (so other things also can be broken and in my case they are). zbiggy From sofar at foo-projects.org Fri Mar 14 00:37:35 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:37:35 -0700 Subject: kernel configuration, hpet (was notebook with lunar?) In-Reply-To: <200803132258.11706.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <47CD282D.7080307@ip-minds.de> <200803130533.32653.zbiggy@o2.pl> <47D966AB.7010306@foo-projects.org> <200803132258.11706.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <47D9BABF.8030606@foo-projects.org> Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: >>> I do not think so. Asus saved cost by not providing heat spreader on >>> south bridge (other manufacturers have some iron on this very same south >>> bridge). Southbridge is hot as hell. I got SATA errors few times. >> lol, ok I will reconsider ASUS mobo's now :) > > This A8N-VM CSM was my learning that if everyone puts iron on chip and one > manufacturer does not do this, it means accountants cut costs on this > product (so other things also can be broken and in my case they are). lol, agreed, and with the notion that they better put aluminium on the chips instead of iron - iron is a terrible conducter, that would be worse than air! Auke From rpyne at kinfolk.org Fri Mar 14 05:18:38 2008 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard Pyne) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:18:38 -0600 Subject: PodParser Message-ID: <47D9A83E.16732.328E610@rpyne.kinfolk.org> I started an update on a server today that hasn't been updated for several months. I noticed that PodParser was removed as part of the update, now many of my Perl modules won't update because they are looking for PodParser. How do I solve this? Do I have to now install PodParser from CPAN or is there a way to get then to install without PodParser? Thanks. --Richard From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Mar 14 12:35:30 2008 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer@lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:35:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: weekly news - 20080314 Message-ID: <20080314113530.29B40F29F3@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (2) agg-2.5: a graphic library gnash-0.8.2: a GNU Flash movie player New versions: (59) CGI.pm : 3.29 -> 3.33 Cairo-Perl : 1.044 -> 1.045 Class-Autouse : 1.27 -> 1.29 Class-Data-Inheritable : 0.06 -> 0.08 DBD-mysql : 4.005 -> 4.006 DBI : 1.59 -> 1.602 ExtUtils-CBuilder : 0.19 -> 0.22 ExtUtils-PkgConfig : 1.08 -> 1.10 File-BaseDir : 0.02 -> 0.03 File-DesktopEntry : 0.02 -> 0.04 File-MimeInfo : 0.14 -> 0.15 File-chdir : 0.06 -> 0.1002 Glib-Perl : 1.162 -> 1.164 Gtk2-Perl : 1.162 -> 1.164 Locale-Maketext-Lexicon : 0.64 -> 0.66 NVIDIA-beta : 171.05 -> 171.06 Nexuiz : 2.3 -> 2.4 Sub-Uplevel : 0.16 -> 0.1901 Test-Exception : 0.25 -> 0.27 Time-HiRes : 1.9711 -> 1.9712 XML-Parser : 2.34 -> 2.36 airconfig-svn : svn-09 -> svn-10 atop : 1.22 -> 1.23 busybox_static : 1.8.1 -> 1.9.1 checkpolicy : 1.34.3 -> 1.34.5 deluge : 0.5.8.5 -> 0.5.8.6 dovecot : 1.0.12 -> 1.0.13 dvd+rw-tools : 7.0 -> 7.1 fox : 1.6.30 -> 1.6.32 ghal-svn : svn-09 -> svn-10 git : 1.5.4.3 -> 1.5.4.4 gitosis-git : git-09 -> git-10 glade3 : 3.4.1 -> 3.4.3 gtk+-2 : 12.8 -> 12.9 inkscape : 0.45.1 -> 0.46 lftp : 3.6.3 -> 3.7.0 liboil : 0.3.12 -> 0.3.13 libselinux : 1.34.13 -> 1.34.15 libsemanage : 1.10.5 -> 1.10.9 libsepol : 1.16.6 -> 1.16.12 lighttpd : 1.4.18 -> 1.4.19 linux-2.6-mm : 2.6.25-rc3-mm1 -> 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 lm_sensors : 2.10.5 -> 2.10.6 lm_sensors-2.6 : 2.10.5 -> 2.10.6 man-pages : 2.78 -> 2.79 mpg123 : 1.3.0 -> 1.3.1 ntfs-3g : 1.2216 -> 1.2310 ocaml : 3.10.0 -> 3.10.2 pfstmo : 1.1 -> 1.2 pfstools : 1.6.2 -> 1.6.4 php : 4.4.7 -> 4.4.8 policycoreutils : 1.34.11 -> 1.34.15 samba : 3.0.28 -> 3.0.28a sox : 14.0.0 -> 14.0.1 squid : 3.0.STABLE1 -> 3.0.STABLE2 tellico : 1.3 -> 1.3.1 wesnoth : 1.2.8 -> 1.4 wine : 0.9.56 -> 0.9.57 xfce4-notes-plugin : 1.4.1 -> 1.6.1 Moved modules: PyQt-4 : qt-apps -> qt4-apps ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From tpchan at comcast.net Fri Mar 14 14:13:27 2008 From: tpchan at comcast.net (Terry Chan) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:13:27 -0500 Subject: PodParser In-Reply-To: <47D9A83E.16732.328E610@rpyne.kinfolk.org> References: <47D9A83E.16732.328E610@rpyne.kinfolk.org> Message-ID: <20080314131327.GA26292@sega.hsd1.il.comcast.net> PodParser is not available on CPAN anymore. It is now provided by perl-5.10.0 AND Module-Build, which is in the moonbase/perl section. So either update your perl5 to perl-5.10.0 or you can do lin -c Module-Build. Terry Chan ------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:18:38PM -0600, Richard Pyne wrote: > I started an update on a server today that hasn't been updated for several > months. I noticed that PodParser was removed as part of the update, now > many of my Perl modules won't update because they are looking for > PodParser. > > How do I solve this? Do I have to now install PodParser from CPAN or is > there a way to get then to install without PodParser? > > Thanks. > > --Richard From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Mar 21 12:35:25 2008 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer@lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:35:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: weekly news - 20080321 Message-ID: <20080321113525.930B9F29F3@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (14) PyPanel-2.4: A lightweight X11 desktop panel bmpanel-0.9.12: A themeable reincarnation of fspanel. e_dbus-cvs-beta: Basic convenience wrappers around dbus to ease integrating dbus w emprint-cvs-beta: Screenshot taking utility written with the EFL fbpanel-4.12: A lightweight X11 desktop panel fish-1.23.0: user friendly shell designed for interactive use gmm-3.0: template library for sparse, dense and skyline matrice libev-3.1: A library for event loops libwpg-0.1.2: work with WordPerfect Graphics monkey-0.9.2: A fast and light web server for Linux. mp3info-0.8.5a: optipng-0.5.5: utility for optimizing png file size losslessly python-xlib-0.13: Python-xlib bindings. xmahjongg-3.7: a tile game that originated in China thousands of years ago. Removed modules: (2) e100 ixgb New versions: (76) AfterStep : 2.2.7 -> 2.2.8 DirectFB : 0.9.25.1 -> 1.0.1 LiVES : 0.9.8.6 -> 0.9.8.9 ORBit2 : 2.14.11 -> 2.14.12 Ultimate : 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 airconfig-svn : svn-10 -> svn-11 amavisd-new : 2.4.5 -> 2.5.4 audacious : 1.4.6 -> 1.5.0 audacious-plugins : 1.4.5 -> 1.5.0 avahi : 0.6.21 -> 0.6.22 bind-utils : 9.4.1-P1 -> 9.4.2 bluez-libs : 3.27 -> 3.28 bluez-utils : 3.27 -> 3.28 bzip2 : 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5 bzr : 1.2 -> 1.3 bzrtools : 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0 cdrkit : 1.1.6 -> 1.1.7.1 dclib : 0.3.9 -> 0.3.13 dialog : 1.1-20070604 -> 1.1-20080316 e1000 : 7.6.15.4 -> 7.6.15.5 e2fsprogs : 1.40.7 -> 1.40.8 erlang : R11B-5 -> R12B-1 extreme-tuxracer : 0.35 -> 0.4 fglrx : 8-02 -> 8-3 findutils : 4.2.33 -> 4.4.0 gambas2 : 2.0.0 -> 2.3.0 gecko-sharp2 : 2.0-0.12 -> 2.0-0.13 geos : 2.2.3 -> 3.0.0 ghal-svn : svn-10 -> svn-11 gitosis-git : git-10 -> git-11 gnutls : 2.0.0 -> 2.3.2 graphviz : 2.14.1 -> 2.16.1 gtk-doc : 1.8 -> 1.9 gtk-sharp2 : 2.10.3 -> 2.10.4 gtksourceview-sharp2 : 2.0-0.11 -> 2.0-0.12 igb : 1.0.8 -> 1.2.22 imlib2 : 1.3.0 -> 1.4.0 intltool : 0.36.3 -> 0.37.1 krusader : 1.80.0 -> 1.90.0 kvm : 40 -> 60 lablgtk : 2.6.0 -> 2.10.1 leafpad : 0.8.12 -> 0.8.14 libcdio : 0.79 -> 0.80 libidn : 1.0 -> 1.6 libmcs : 0.6.0 -> 0.7.0 libmowgli : 0.6.0 -> 0.6.1 libtasn1 : 0.3.9 -> 0.3.10 lxpanel : 0.2.4 -> 0.2.7 monodevelop : 0.19 -> 1.0 monodevelop-database : 0.19 -> 1.0 motion : 3.2.8 -> 3.2.9 neon : 0.26.3 -> 0.26.4 nmap : 4.53 -> 4.60 obconf : 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3 openbox : 3.4.4 -> 3.4.6.1 opencdk : 0.5.11 -> 0.6.6 opera-beta : 9.50beta1834 -> 9.50beta1875 opera-static-beta : 9.50beta1834 -> 9.50beta1875 pcmanfm : 0.3.2.2 -> 0.3.6 pgadmin3 : 1.6.3 -> 1.8.2 physfs : 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 postgresql : 8.3.0 -> 8.3.1 proj-4 : 5.0 -> 6.0 scite : 175 -> 176 shared-mime-info : 0.22 -> 0.23 sqlite : 3.5.6 -> 3.5.7 stgit : 0.13 -> 0.14.1 sysstat : 8.1.1 -> 8.1.2 taglib : 1.4 -> 1.5 tig : 0.9.1 -> 0.10 unison : 2.13.16 -> 2.27.57 valknut : 0.3.9 -> 0.3.13 vorbis-tools : 1.1.1 -> 1.2.0 winzig : 1.80 -> 1.93 xine-lib : 1.1.10.1 -> 1.1.11 zsh : 4.3.4 -> 4.3.5 ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From dennisveatch at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 21 14:11:42 2008 From: dennisveatch at bellsouth.net (Dennis Veatch) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:11:42 -0400 Subject: x86_64 and java Message-ID: <200803210911.43015.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> I have found a version of blackdown, j2sdk (same as current in moonbase) compiled for amd64. On the few sites that I tried it on it worked well. This is an old version so it may well have the same or similar issues as the i586 does. But it is better than nothing at this point. And yes, I know it is a amd64.bin but I did test it on a T60 core 2 duo in case someone is wondering about that. So for you 64bitheads you might want to try it out. :-) -- You can tuna piano but you can't tune a fish. http://www.lunar-linux.org/ It's worth a spin. From criggenbach at magahugu.net Thu Mar 27 16:32:02 2008 From: criggenbach at magahugu.net (Christian Riggenbach) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:32:02 +0000 Subject: use REPOSITORY-THRESHOLD instead of {CVS,SVN,GIT]-THRESHOLD Message-ID: <200803271532.04554.criggenbach@magahugu.net> hi list attached is the patch to use -one- variable for the update-threshold of repositories. the old thechnique was to use {CVS,SVN,GIT]-THRESHOLD, but only CVS-THRESHOLD was configured in the download-menu. the missing patches are plugins for the git, subversion and cvs modules and are in the queue. -- mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Christian Riggenbach -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: download.menu.diff Type: text/x-diff Size: 3281 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar/attachments/20080327/6ae04f8f/download.menu.bin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Auke From moe at lunar-linux.org Thu Mar 27 18:31:27 2008 From: moe at lunar-linux.org (Moritz Heiber) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:31:27 +0100 Subject: use REPOSITORY-THRESHOLD instead of {CVS,SVN,GIT]-THRESHOLD In-Reply-To: <47EBD661.8040107@foo-projects.org> References: <200803271532.04554.criggenbach@magahugu.net> <47EBD661.8040107@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <20080327183127.7c258486@lunar-linux.org> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:16:17 -0700 "Kok, Auke" wrote: > this sounds reasonable... if noone objects I'll merge these changes. Please go ahead. Make sure you adjust all the affected plugins accordingly and bump the respected UPDATED fields. Christian, thank you for your contribution! Auke, ah .. you know I <3 you. ;-P Regards, Moritz -- GPG public key B189E8C8 From criggenbach at magahugu.net Thu Mar 27 19:02:36 2008 From: criggenbach at magahugu.net (Christian Riggenbach) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:02:36 +0000 Subject: use REPOSITORY-THRESHOLD instead of {CVS,SVN,GIT]-THRESHOLD In-Reply-To: <20080327183127.7c258486@lunar-linux.org> References: <200803271532.04554.criggenbach@magahugu.net> <47EBD661.8040107@foo-projects.org> <20080327183127.7c258486@lunar-linux.org> Message-ID: <200803271802.39912.criggenbach@magahugu.net> Am Donnerstag 27 M?rz 2008 17.31:27 schrieb Moritz Heiber: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:16:17 -0700 > > "Kok, Auke" wrote: > > this sounds reasonable... if noone objects I'll merge these changes. > > Please go ahead. Make sure you adjust all the affected plugins > accordingly and bump the respected UPDATED fields. > > Christian, thank you for your contribution! > > Auke, ah .. you know I <3 you. ;-P > > Regards, > > Moritz Sorry, i forget the UPDATED fields. i send them again. -- mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Christian Riggenbach -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar/attachments/20080327/aab4b898/attachment.bin From sofar at foo-projects.org Thu Mar 27 19:34:19 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:34:19 -0700 Subject: use REPOSITORY-THRESHOLD instead of {CVS,SVN,GIT]-THRESHOLD In-Reply-To: <200803271802.39912.criggenbach@magahugu.net> References: <200803271532.04554.criggenbach@magahugu.net> <47EBD661.8040107@foo-projects.org> <20080327183127.7c258486@lunar-linux.org> <200803271802.39912.criggenbach@magahugu.net> Message-ID: <47EBE8AB.5090004@foo-projects.org> Christian Riggenbach wrote: > Am Donnerstag 27 M?rz 2008 17.31:27 schrieb Moritz Heiber: >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:16:17 -0700 >> >> "Kok, Auke" wrote: >>> this sounds reasonable... if noone objects I'll merge these changes. >> Please go ahead. Make sure you adjust all the affected plugins >> accordingly and bump the respected UPDATED fields. >> >> Christian, thank you for your contribution! >> >> Auke, ah .. you know I <3 you. ;-P >> >> Regards, >> >> Moritz > > Sorry, i forget the UPDATED fields. i send them again. that's not needed and actually not wanted at all. Auke From criggenbach at magahugu.net Thu Mar 27 21:08:05 2008 From: criggenbach at magahugu.net (Christian Riggenbach) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:08:05 +0000 Subject: use REPOSITORY-THRESHOLD instead of {CVS,SVN,GIT]-THRESHOLD In-Reply-To: <47EBE8AB.5090004@foo-projects.org> References: <200803271532.04554.criggenbach@magahugu.net> <200803271802.39912.criggenbach@magahugu.net> <47EBE8AB.5090004@foo-projects.org> Message-ID: <200803272008.08162.criggenbach@magahugu.net> Am Donnerstag 27 M?rz 2008 18.34:19 schrieb Kok, Auke: > Christian Riggenbach wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 27 M?rz 2008 17.31:27 schrieb Moritz Heiber: > >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:16:17 -0700 > >> > >> "Kok, Auke" wrote: > >>> this sounds reasonable... if noone objects I'll merge these changes. > >> > >> Please go ahead. Make sure you adjust all the affected plugins > >> accordingly and bump the respected UPDATED fields. > >> > >> Christian, thank you for your contribution! > >> > >> Auke, ah .. you know I <3 you. ;-P > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Moritz > > > > Sorry, i forget the UPDATED fields. i send them again. > > that's not needed and actually not wanted at all. > > Auke > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar then not :) just a suggestion. -- mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Christian Riggenbach -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar/attachments/20080327/3a7a6fef/attachment.bin From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Mar 28 12:35:27 2008 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer@lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:35:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: weekly news - 20080328 Message-ID: <20080328113527.7DB8DF29A2@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (2) k9copy2-2.0.0-Source: KDE4 utility which allows the copy of DVD x264-git-beta: library for encoding H264/AVC video streams Removed modules: (2) mix x264-svn New versions: (22) airconfig-svn : svn-11 -> svn-12 audacious : 1.5.0 -> 1.4.6 audacious-plugins : 1.5.0 -> 1.4.5 balsa : 2.3.22 -> 2.3.23 deluge : 0.5.8.6 -> 0.5.8.7 firefox : 2.0.0.12 -> 2.0.0.13 fltk : 1.1.7 -> 1.1.8 ghal-svn : svn-11 -> svn-12 gitosis-git : git-11 -> git-12 gnokii : 0.6.23 -> 0.6.24 gnonlin : 0.10.8 -> 0.10.9 gnupg2 : 2.0.8 -> 2.0.9 ktorrent4 : 3.0.0 -> 3.0.1 linux-2.6 : 2.6.24.3 -> 2.6.24.4 openoffice-bin : 2.3.1 -> 2.4.0 seamonkey : 1.1.8 -> 1.1.9 sun-jdk : 1.5.0_11 -> 1.6.0_05 sun-jre : 1.6.0_02 -> 1.6.0_05 usermin : 1.330 -> 1.340 webmin : 1.400 -> 1.410 wget : 1.11 -> 1.11.1 wine : 0.9.57 -> 0.9.58 ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From jason5876 at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 00:59:40 2008 From: jason5876 at gmail.com (Jason Williams) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:59:40 -0400 Subject: gpm patches Message-ID: <2dbd1ee0803301559n5f005d2avbfcd20b84384ff04@mail.gmail.com> Here are the two patches to go along with the gpm module submission. The gpm-1.20.1-secenhance.patch stays and the gpm-1.20.1-limits.patch is replaced with the two attached patches. Thank you. JW -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: gpm-1.20.1-limits1.patch Url: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar/attachments/20080330/483bbf42/gpm-1.20.1-limits1.ksh -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: gpm-1.20.1-limits2.patch Url: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar/attachments/20080330/483bbf42/gpm-1.20.1-limits2.ksh From jason5876 at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 05:45:56 2008 From: jason5876 at gmail.com (Jason Williams) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:45:56 -0400 Subject: xcdroast patch Message-ID: <2dbd1ee0803302045n4289e598xaf0eec5b99f0e2ce@mail.gmail.com> Here is the mkisofs function patch to go with the xcdroast module submission. 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